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Offering
up an eclectic mix of musical genres, the Barenaked Ladies
have gone from humble beginnings in Canada to packing concert
halls and selling millions of albums throughout the world.
Fresh off their latest release, Maroon, the group -- comprised
of singer-guitarists Ed Robertson and Steven Page, bassist
Jim Creeggan, drummer Tyler Stewart, and keyboard player
Kevin Hearn -- has hit the road on a highly anticipated
and so-far successful tour.
Formed
in Toronto back in 1988, the Barenaked Ladies released its
first album, Gordon, in 1990 -- an album that contains two
of the group's most popular concert pieces, "If I Had A
Million Dollars" and "Be My Yoko Ono." In a testimony to
the group's perseverance, it took eight more years for BNL
to break it big, which they did with Stunt and its No. 1
single, "One Week." The rest, as they say, is history.
But it's
really the band's live show that provides the truest measure
of who they - and their legions of fans - really are. Blending
BNL's solid musicianship with characteristic smattering
of improvisation, anecdotes and just plain nonsense, the
show demonstrates the versatility and talent of each member
of the band and highlights the group's great chemistry.
For example, a recent packed show at the Jones Beach Theater
on Long Island, NY was an all-encompassing, fun-filled party
that featured the band's rollicking music - including "Pinch
Me," the first single off the new album -- giant balloon
heads, a ridiculous list of things not to do, and fans throwing
underwear up on the stage (security had already searched
knapsacks and confiscated all the trademark boxes of Kraft
macaroni and cheese). As evidence of the bands' ability
to take it all in stride, Robertson and Page played a good
portion of the show with underwear draped on their guitars.
Just
before attending the Jones Beach event, Starpolish reporter
Michelle Gesser caught up with drummer Tyler Stewart and
discussed the band's road to stardom, constant touring,
and dealing with adversity
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STARPOLISH: The band has
been through a lot in past years -- for example, Kevin's illness
[Note: Hearn was diagnosed with leukemia in March of 1998, but
has since recovered - Ed.] -- yet has continued to flourish. What
advise do you have for aspiring musicians and their battles with
hardship?
“We
really built our following up through word of mouth
and live playing…” |
STEWART:
Well, with Kev going down it certainly brought us together as
a band more, and made us realize we can depend on each other,
and we need to depend on each other. I'll use a sports analogy,
but it really is a team thing being in a group and being in a
band, and you know we really learned the value of being close
to each other during that because we were able to support each
other and also, as a unit, to support Kevin.
STARPOLISH: So it's more
like a family?
STEWART:
Yeah, definitely. It takes a while, though. It's like any relationship
-- it doesn't just happen overnight; you have to strive to achieve
a healthy relationship and it really helps to be open and communicate
with each other.
STARPOLISH:
A strong fan base is something you all have developed over
the years. How would you suggest that other artists establish
themselves in terms of listener support?
STEWART:
Well, we just toured everywhere. We made sure we had a good, entertaining
live show. That was a building block for us, because if you go
out and put on a good show, even if there are only 10 people there,
the next time you come through … there may be 10 more because
those people might have talked about it. We really built our following
up through word of mouth and live playing because it was a while
before we got any radio support, particularly in the U.S. So we
just managed to be dedicated to touring and playing all the time,
and then not taking "no" for an answer. You know, "Get in the
van," as Henry Rollins once said, just get in the van and just
tour and play.
STARPOLISH: Do you have
any suggestions for bands that want to cross over into the U.S.,
because I know you were big in Canada before you even got here?
STEWART:
Well, the U.S. is a big place. The thing about Canada is there
are not that many places to play, and the population is one-tenth
the size of the U.S. So it's easy to just go and play all the
places. And sometimes you fall into the rut of playing the same
places all the time. It's good to try and spread out, and we immediately
started [playing] just over the border -- in places like Buffalo,
Detroit and Cleveland -- from where we were. That way, if you
get people interested there, there is a chance that radio stations
might get interested, and radio stations are reported all over
the country. S if word of mouth gets around in radio-land, then
that helps, too. That's sort of what happened with us.
STARPOLISH: Your music is
very eclectic -- does that make radio play more difficult?
“Your
own creative energy
and juices should be what drives you.” |
STEWART:
Yes, I think because we're not. . . you can't just put us in a
box and categorize our music. I think it changes and it's eclectic
in that respect. So yeah, it's definitely been a challenge. But
at the end of the day as long as its good … you have to be satisfied
with it yourself and I think the way you do that is by putting
everything you have into it and ensuring that you feel good about
the stuff you're putting out, and do it for you and not for the
record company -- or for the fans, actually.
STARPOLISH: Often when a
band grows musically, their fans want them to stay the same. Have
you experienced that? Is there anything you can do to ease the
transition for fans?
STEWART:
I don't think there is anything you can do to ease the transition
at all. People are fickle like that; their tastes change, and
you meant something to them at a particular time in their life,
and I don't think you can ever repeat the same album twice --
and you shouldn't even try to. Growth, both musically and personally,
is inevitable. We get people who say, "Yeah, I used to like them,
but I like their older stuff -- their new stuff sucks." That's
fine, because hopefully what you can do is replace them with new
people who like your music. I don't think it behooves any band
to try to stick to their roots, man, to try to appease the small
minority of fans who get alienated when a group changes their
sound. I think you have to do what's right for you. The fans are
very important, and the listeners are very important, but their
fickleness shouldn't be the thing that drives you -- your own
creative energy and juices should be what drives you.
STARPOLISH:
Well, you've definitely established yourselves in that respect.
When I think of the band, I definitely associate it with totally
down-to-earth guys -- even though you have a documentary and book
about you. How did you all keep success from going to your head?
Has it had a significant impact on your personality?
STEWART:
I think success can't help but change you a little bit, whether
it gives you more confidence or it makes you more insecure or
whatever. I think we've really strived to be communicative with
each other. I think we've strived to be better people. And just
the simple fact that we've been together for 11 years shows that
it's been fairly successful. Otherwise, we probably would have
split a long time ago. I think success for me has allowed me to
continue to do what I love and to make a pretty good living doing
it. And you know, that me to me is the ultimate in success --
that 11 years in I'm still playing drums in a band that I love
and I'm managing to earn a living doing it.
STARPOLISH: If you could
offer one piece of advice to the bands out there trying to make
it, what would it be?
STEWART:
Keep doing it; don't give up. Keep on getting better. You'll know
if you're destined to do it or not -- you know, you'll feel it.
If it doesn't make any sense to do anything else, then it's real.
Don't listen to whoever it may be, your parents or just the conservative
forces at large who say, "Oh, it's too hard, there's so many bands."
You can do it if you have good material and you keep working at
it.
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